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The EULA and how it affects Cobalt

Discussion in 'News & Announcements' started by joshwenke, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. joshwenke Active Member

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    As Mojang has announced recently, they will begin enforcing their End User License Agreement (EULA), which has many rules which don't make sense and contradict each other.

    Basically, they have always prohibited servers from selling any in-game ranks or items for real money, which is what a majority of Minecraft servers do to survive, including Cobalt. Up until this point, they haven't enforced it. Now, apparently, they are going to enforce their strict, unnecessary rules.

    If they follow through and actually enforce it for all servers, we have a plan. But I'm hoping that they don't enforce it, or at least let the smaller servers get past their rules a bit.

    If Mojang enforces their rules, I have a plan (and have already begun work on it). Basically, as they stated, you can charge for access to your Minecraft server (like a paid whitelist). As stupid as this sounds, they're going to allow it. That means Cobalt will split into 5 separate servers, but all connected through a proxy. Since we can charge for access to a server, Supportes will get their own IP to connect to. VIPs, Elites, and Premiums will each have their own separate IP to a whitelisted server. Of course we'll still have our regular server.

    Our magical plugins will all sync across each of these servers, and if you were to place a block on the Elite server for example, it would show up in the exact same map in the exact same location on the Supporter and normal server. If you chat, it will show up in normal chat just like normal (without any segregation between servers, we're trying to make this as seamless as possible).

    As one of their PR people said (do they even have PR people?!), a server is defined as being able to access any corner of it without disconnecting. So to get to your specific server (if you're a VIP, you'd use your own IP, etc), you have to press disconnect to get access to your features.

    I know this sounds confusing, and it's technically very hard to explain. But know these two things:
    1. Nothing will change as far as donor features are concerned.
    2. The only thing that will change are different IPs for the donors, but the server will still function exactly as it does now. So you won't notice a difference besides connecting through a different IP if you've donated.
    Now instead of selling ranks and separating the user base (which the EULA does not allow), we're selling access to a server that has all the features of our current ranks included in it.
    This will only happen if Mojang does decide to enforce their new policy. Otherwise we'll stay the same as we've always been.
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  2. OYA139 Experienced Member

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    I heard something about donating cant give special items so will donor kits change in anyway?
  3. boesball Experienced Member

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    Does this thingy only affect donors. I don't want to have to read it.
  4. joshwenke Active Member

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    Nope, on the donor server that you "buy" access to, the kits are all free and included! It's completely fine to give free kits, so the donor kits will stay the same.

    Yes, the normal member experience won't change at all.
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  5. epicdrill Experienced Member

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    Could you please quote the section of the EULA you are referring to when you say this? I looked it up and can't find anything that i interpret to mean "no selling in game ranks". I see "no selling anything to make a personal profit with regards to our game" but that doesn't restrict in game ranks that are used exclusively to play server hosting costs.
  6. knowingerty Experienced Member

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    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/notch-at-loggerheads-with-minecraft-users-and-press-over-eula/0134191

    "Mojang recently confirmed its intention to enforce details in its end user licence agreement (EULA) for Minecraft that while permitting those who run a Minecraft server to take donations and fees for that service, prevent them from selectively charge variable fees for access and cannot charge for the sale of digital items that give players an advantage."
  7. joshwenke Active Member

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    https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation-the-follow-up-qa/
    So basically, most of our donor features are breaking this rule right now. However, on August 1 when they enforce the EULA, we will be switched over to this new method of bypassing the EULA.
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  8. CuteChristian Experienced Member

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    On another server I play on they have completely removed donator commands like /fly, /feed etc etc.
    They said it was because of the EULA that they removed them.
    Any idea why?
  9. knowingerty Experienced Member

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    They can get in big trouble if they dont follow the EULA if mojang enforces it, they probs didnt want to get in trouble Christian.
  10. joshwenke Active Member

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    The only way Mojang could technically enforce it is by shutting down the login servers for just the servers that break their rules. Then again, a simple IP change or something would void you of that. Any offline/cracked servers wouldn't be affected at all.

    I guess they could sue, but there's no way to sue something that isn't a real business owned by a kid. I doubt they'll enforce it on the smaller servers.
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  11. lucytemple Experienced Member

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    All the sudden they are forcing this EULA and don't call me a keyboard warrior, but why are they doing this? For the past 2-3 years they have not bothered with it and why are they suddenly enforcing it? Just because they are not making enough money and other people are from servers? What a load of crap. Mojang needs to step down and someone needs to take over.
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  12. joshwenke Active Member

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    Someone posted on a Mojang employee's twitter asking about the EULA and what it meant for servers, and I guess Mojang decided to crack down. They also get constant emails from parents saying "My kid was banned after donating on this server" and there's nothing Mojang can do about it. They have their reasons, but it is a pain for server owners.
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  13. lucytemple Experienced Member

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    Hmm, there is always a person who has to spoil it then parents complain as their kids go crying to them after GRIEFING when it is probably clearly against the rules then they go to Mojang when it isn't the server.. :/
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  14. knowingerty Experienced Member

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    One question, how are they gonna enforce a whole bunch of server that do this?
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  15. lucytemple Experienced Member

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    They probably won't, with Mojang, it's all talk. Notch and his 80 word statuses mean a pile of crap, don't know why some people are taking it so far to (on the spigot forums) get into a massive argument over it.
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  16. _Cangus_ Experienced Member

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    Oh, God. Does this mean I won't be able to purchase Supporter?!
  17. ArmedChimpanze Experienced Member

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    I swear, we need an age limit before people can play online games, or an IQ test, or something!
    --- Double Post Merged Jul 1, 2014, Original Post Date: Jul 1, 2014 ---

    That's your answer UC ^
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  18. joshwenke Active Member

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    Ranks will stay EXACTLY as they are. Whether you buy it now or after the Eula is enforced.. You'll have relatively the exact same features
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  19. Xeladin Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorta fine with not having to purchase ranks. I really don't like how other people get advantages and stuff. So if we're all on equal grounds, then it would seem fair. If i were to pay for a server, it would not be for the perks, it would be just so i can support a nice server.
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  20. AngeloWolf_ Experienced Member

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    So Donors wont be able to play with non-ranked players??? If so, thats a bummer :(
    --- Double Post Merged Aug 28, 2014, Original Post Date: Aug 28, 2014 ---
    Oh and just putting this out there...

    This is the WORST Mojang idea ever! i dont even understand how they are making minecraft a better experience for players anymore.... Anyone else agree?

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